most citedSOAP: Improving and Stabilizing Shampoo using Adam

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cs.LG2025

Adam or Gauss-Newton? A Comparative Study In Terms of Basis Alignment and SGD Noise

Bingbin Liu, Rachit Bansal, Depen Morwani +3

Preconditioned methods are central to deep learning optimization. Predominant approaches include computationally light diagonal preconditioners such as Adam, which rely on gradient…

cs.LG2025

The Potential of Second-Order Optimization for LLMs: A Study with Full Gauss-Newton

Natalie Abreu, Nikhil Vyas, Sham Kakade +1

Recent efforts to accelerate LLM pretraining have focused on computationally-efficient approximations that exploit second-order structure. This raises a key question for large-scal…

cs.LG2025

Connections between Schedule-Free Optimizers, AdEMAMix, and Accelerated SGD Variants

Depen Morwani, Nikhil Vyas, Hanlin Zhang +1

Recent advancements in deep learning optimization have introduced new algorithms, such as Schedule-Free optimizers, AdEMAMix, MARS and Lion which modify traditional momentum mechan…

cs.LG2024

Loss-to-Loss Prediction: Scaling Laws for All Datasets

David Brandfonbrener, Nikhil Anand, Nikhil Vyas +2

While scaling laws provide a reliable methodology for predicting train loss across compute scales for a single data distribution, less is known about how these predictions should c…

cs.LG2024

How Does Critical Batch Size Scale in Pre-training?

Hanlin Zhang, Depen Morwani, Nikhil Vyas +5

Training large-scale models under given resources requires careful design of parallelism strategies. In particular, the efficiency notion of critical batch size (CBS), concerning t…

cs.LG2024★ 1 cited

Mixture of Parrots: Experts improve memorization more than reasoning

Samy Jelassi, Clara Mohri, David Brandfonbrener +7

The Mixture-of-Experts (MoE) architecture enables a significant increase in the total number of model parameters with minimal computational overhead. However, it is not clear what…

cs.LG2024★ 2 cited

SOAP: Improving and Stabilizing Shampoo using Adam

Nikhil Vyas, Depen Morwani, Rosie Zhao +5

There is growing evidence of the effectiveness of Shampoo, a higher-order preconditioning method, over Adam in deep learning optimization tasks. However, Shampoo's drawbacks includ…

cs.LG2024★ 2 cited

Deconstructing What Makes a Good Optimizer for Language Models

Rosie Zhao, Depen Morwani, David Brandfonbrener +2

Training language models becomes increasingly expensive with scale, prompting numerous attempts to improve optimization efficiency. Despite these efforts, the Adam optimizer remain…

cs.LG2024

A New Perspective on Shampoo's Preconditioner

Depen Morwani, Itai Shapira, Nikhil Vyas +3

Shampoo, a second-order optimization algorithm which uses a Kronecker product preconditioner, has recently garnered increasing attention from the machine learning community. The pr…