paper

Hagendorf Orders

arXiv:2609.39487

Abstract

Call a linear order type Hagendorf if it shares two properties with additively indecomposable ordinal numbers without being one itself: is strictly indecomposable to the right and whenever , then can be embedded into a proper initial segment of . In the 1970s, J. Hagendorf asked whether such types exist. F. Galvin observed that they must be uncountable, and soon thereafter, J. Larson proved that they cannot be scattered. We provide a simplification of her argument that might give additional insight into the -scattered case. We then show that consistently Hagendorf types exist and that this holds in many models of set theory, for instance under or . In fact, their non-existence has large cardinal strength. Furthermore, we construct real Hagendorf types from and from . This marks the first progress on this interesting problem since its description by Larson four dozen years ago.

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